May 25, 2006


Filed under: digital — mhoye @ 10:28 am

This isn’t the first time I’ve run into this, but it still boggles my hard-to-boggle mind every time: I cannot fucking believe that if I need to install a 64-bit Windows OS on a machine with Serial-ATA drives, in two thousand and god-damned six, that I need to put drivers on a floppy disk. Not a CD, not a USB key: a floppy.

It’s like saying “before we can start the neurosurgery, the patient needs to be trepanned.”

Can you even buy a non-USB floppy drive anymore?

UPDATE: You’ll love this.

Installing XP/x86-64 on an HP workstation, I not only need to have a floppy drive in the machine, but I also need to use the 32-bit, not the 64-bit drivers that Intel provides, otherwise the installer thinks they’re corrupted. Even though I’m installing a 64-bit OS on a 64-bit machine. That’s the wall I’ve been beating my head on all morning.

Then, it tells me that those drivers are already included with the OS, even though the installer won’t recognize the drive, and you can’t get at those included drivers from the installer anyway. So, I need the floppy drive here so that I can install older drivers than the ones on the boot CD, because otherwise I just can’t get there from here.

Dear Microsoft: Fuck you guys. Seriously.


  1. Sure, they still exist, and you can spec them in a new machine for Very Little, if there’s room, of course. They tend to be 5-7 bucks or so, whereas the USB ones are far more expensive than that.

    It’s probably easier to use a spare p-ata hard drive as the carrier than a floppy, though, if the machine doesn’t have either one standard.

    Comment by Jasper Janssen — May 25, 2006 @ 11:43 am

  2. Horseshoes still exist, too. That’s not the point. The point is that they are a Relic Of A Past Era, and that I should not need them to get to the office in the morning.

    Comment by Mike Hoye — May 25, 2006 @ 11:49 am

  3. Actually, my friend who had brain surgery was effectively trepanned as a first step.

    Comment by Nikita — May 25, 2006 @ 10:58 pm

  4. Not with a flint arrowhead.

    Comment by Mike Hoye — May 26, 2006 @ 9:12 am

  5. Microsoft called me this morning and his feelings are really really hurt. He says you pull this shit all the time. It’s all “fuck you, Microsoft”, but then who comes running back the next day looking for compatibility….

    Comment by me — May 26, 2006 @ 3:20 pm

  6. I actually came across this very same problem recently when my friend upgraded his computer. It seems that the problem lies in the motherboard. Some motherboard manufacturers, to keep costs down and to allow for more modular building of motherboards, choose to have a separate SATA control chip, that is one that isn’t part of the northbridge. This means that there needs to be extra drivers for the motherboard. Granted, this is partially the fault of Microsoft, how could they not support CD or USB, I’ll never know.

    So here’s the solution, buy a motherboard with integrated SATA, something that has the NForce4 or RS400 (I think) chipset is probably a good choice. Until then, procede with the bashing.

    Comment by Guillaume — May 26, 2006 @ 3:22 pm

  7. Mike… Why do you ask for this pain?

    64 bit Windows? I mean come on… doesn’t the “Free zippered gimp mask inside” sticker on the box give you some pause? You can bet you’re going to be wearing that from when you first power the puppy up until you solve the “64 bits” riddle by lobbing the machine out the window.

    Reading these posts is almost as amusing as watching those old Saturday Night Live skits where a couple dorks would be talking about the horrible things they had accidentally done to themselves with powertools. “And then I, like, drilled a hole in my finger…. like right up under my nail…” “Oh yeah?” “Yeah… and then… like poured turpentine in the hole.” “Oh yeah… I hate it when I do that!”

    Comment by Amos — May 27, 2006 @ 12:27 am

  8. There was a free zippered gimp mask?

    Man, I got ripped off.

    Comment by Mike Hoye — May 27, 2006 @ 11:33 am

  9. I think there are tools out there to slipstream those drivers into an XP install CD, to obviate the need for additional floppyage. I swore I was going to do that if I had to install XP on a SATA-only machine again, but then I just stopped using SATA on that machine.

    I don’t think that means I won.

    Comment by shaver — June 2, 2006 @ 11:32 am

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